European Bike Frames 56cm and smaller

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PLEASE NOTE: I measure all British, American and Japanese frames in inches ctt (centre to top) and convert to the nearest cm, conversely I measure all European and Italian frames in centimetres ctc (centre to centre) and convert to the nearest 0.25in.
A problem with all frames measured ctt is that the top measuring point varies from maker to maker and I try and second guess where the maker intended his measurement to be to – some mean top of top top tube, others the very top of the seat lug, and others to the seat lug top line…

FRAME SIZING
Do not assume that you will need a frame sized the same as your modern one – either seat tube or top tube. Fashion plays a great part in frame design and sizing. In the early years of the 20th century frames were sized as large as possible with virtually no seatpost showing … by contrast riders were advised in the 1920s to have as small a frame as possible.
Race/road frames from the 1920s/early 1930s will generally be sized about 3–5cm smaller than a modern frame but with a much longer top tube and shorter stems. Towards the end of the 1930s larger frame sizes became fashionable – up to 2cm larger than a modern frame. Top tube lengths were still longer used with shorter stems. In the 1940s and 50s frames were sized a bit larger still – 3–4cm more than a modern frame still with longer top tubes and shorter stems. In the 1960s and 1970s frames gradually reduced in size until the late 1980s. At the same time top tubes began to get shorter and stems longer.

Standover height is NOT a useful method of frame sizing either with modern or old frames. Short legged riders will rarely have much or any clearance between the top tube and their crotch unless the frame has a sloping top tube design. Taller riders also face other problems. A complete guide to frame sizing for frames of different periods is impossible to detail here. For frames from the 1980s onwards I suggest buyers look at Dave Moulton’s contributions on frame sizing. Possibly start off with http://davesbikeblog.squarespace.com/blog/2006/2/27/a-different-thought-on-frame-sizing.html
and then look at: http://www.davemoultonregistry.com/MoultonFrameSizeChart

I am willing to advise any customer on frame sizing with older frames.

Featured Frames
British and American road frames smaller than 21.5in
British and American road frames 21.5in–22.5in
British and American road frames larger than 22.5in
Bargain Basement
Classic Road frames pre-1970 smaller than 21.5in
Classic Road frames pre-1970 21.5in–22.5in
Classic Road frames pre-1970 larger than 22.5in
Classic Track & Road-Track frames pre-1970
European frames 56cm or smaller
European frames larger than 56cm
Italian frames 56cm or smaller
Italian frames larger than 56cm
Lo-Pro &
Retro Time Trial frames

Touring frames
Track frames

Please contact me at: hilarystone@hilarystone.com to check on availability and confirm shipping cost.

TENDIL ROAD FRAME 54cm 1949
Seat Tube (ctc): 54cm (21.25in)
Top Tube (ctc): 57cm (22.5in)
Rear dropout width: 120mm
Wheel size: Sprints/700C with brake drop of 62mm
Frame tubing: Not known
Seatpost size: 25mm
Tendil Cycles was founded in southern France in 1920 – it moved Nimes during the 1920s and it still exists there. They sponsored a professional team from the mid 1930s through until the early 1950s. They produced some very high quality bikes during the period of time – ten years ago I sold a wonderful pre-war Tendil road bike which was equipped with all the best kit of the time. I think they were more interested in road bikes rather than touring or randonneurs so are not considered as a Constructeur builder…
This frame dating I think from 1949 is really very nice – it has the early pattern Simplex rear dropouts with hanger for a Simplex TDF gear and I think the lugs are probably from Oscar Egg. Its in very sound condition though the paint is poor but comes complete with headset. It can fairly easily be built into a lovely road bike gears, brakes and bars will all be pretty straightforward… It has French threads. £265

 

CONCORDE ROAD FRAME 1982–3 53cm Built by Ciocc
Seat Tube (ctc): 53cm (21in)
Top Tube (ctc): 54cm (21.25in)
Rear dropout width: 126mm
Wheel size: Sprints/700C with brake drop of 48mm
Frame tubing: Columbus SL
Seatpost size: 27.2mm
Concorde frames were marketed and sold by by a Belgian/Dutch company and some were built in Italy by Ciocc – this is definitely one – it has Ciocc cutouts in the lugs and bottom bracket shell. Ciocc’s boss and head framebuilder was Giovanni Pelizzoli. Ciocc was his nickname … local dialect for ‘poker faced’. They had a very successful race history in the 1980s.
This frame dates from 1982–3 is in very sound condition (it is dent/ding free) but needs a repaint obviously… £145


LOOK KG196 53cm 1990s
Seat Tube (ctc): 53cm (21in)
Top Tube (ctc): 56cm (22in)
Rear dropout width: 130mm
Wheel size: Sprints/700C with brake drop of 47mm
Frame tubing: Carbon-fibre monococque
Seatpost size: 27.2mm
Look road frames were ridden by a number of pro road teams in the 1990s and their top riders used these extremely advanced frames for road stages; there were also TT versions.
This frame is in very sound condition though there a quite a number of marks to the paint. There is no structural damage or cracks… Priced to take account of the paint condition. £475

 

MAURY ROAD FRAME 56cm
Seat Tube (ctc): 56cm (22in)
Top Tube (ctc): 55cm (21.5in)
Rear dropout width: 115mm
Wheel size: Sprints/700C with brake drop of 57mm
Frame tubing: Vitus
Seatpost size: 26.2mm
Maury was one of the top French Constructeur framebuilders in the 1940s and 50s ranking nearly alongside such greats as Rene Herse and Alex Singer. This frame which I think dates from the 1940s is very well built. The lugs have been well trimmed – many of his frames seem to exhibit lugs which are considerably cut away. The filing and brazing is impeccable. It comes complete with Stronglight chainset mounted on what appears to be a cartridge bottom bracket… It also comes with a much later Kurahawa headset. Really very special. £465

 

BERNARD CARRÉ ROAD FRAME 56cm 1970s/80s
Seat Tube (ctc): 56cm (22in)
Top Tube (ctc): 55cm (21.5in)
Rear dropout width: 124mm
Wheel size: Sprints/700C with a brake drop of 50mm
Frame tubing: Reynolds 531 double butted
Seatpost size: 26.4mm
Bernard Carré built frames for many of the top French Professional riders and had an excellent trade supplying many shops with their own label frames throughout France… He built many of Anquetil’s personal bikes and also built for many teams. It has Bernard Carré ‘s signature oversize curved seatstay caps. This frame from I think the late 1970s or early 1980s is in very sound condition but does need repainting – it comes complete with a good headset and Stronglight BB. £145

 

DILECTA ROAD FRAME 56cm Early 1950s Ex-Team
Seat Tube (ctc): 56cm (22in)
Top Tube (ctc): 56cm (22in)
Rear dropout width: 120mm
Wheel size: Sprints/700C with a brake drop of 62mm
Frame tubing: Reynolds 531 double butted
Headset and BB threads: French
Seatpost size: 26.6mm
Dilecta were an old established French medium sized bike manufacturer – in the 1920s, 40s, 50s and in the mid 60s had pro bike teams. This frame which I think dates to 1953 is I am certain an ex-team frame – you can see a picture here of François Mahé in 1953 aboard a very similar frame … it’s even the same size I think. There’s a discussion on the Dilecta race bikes: http://forum.tontonvelo.com/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=12664
The frame is very sound but obviously needs repainting and rechroming. But there is a small dent on the underside of of the down tube which will not affect the strength and is easily filled when the frame is painted. Original specification would have included Simplex Juy 51 rear gear, Simplex rod operated TDF front gear, Durax Special Course cranks, Philippe bars and stem, side-pull brakes – not Lam, maybe CLB?, Simplex hubs… All reasonably easily found. £345

 

MERCADER ROAD 46cm late 1980s
Seat Tube (ctc): 46cm (18in)
Top Tube (ctc): 52.5cm (20.75in)
Rear dropout width: 126mm
Wheel size: Sprints/700C with a brake drop of 45mm
Frame tubing: Not known but certainly double butted
Seatpost size: 27.2mm
Mercader Cycles in Tarbes, the Pyrenees still exists as a motorcycle repair shop but does not appear to be a bicycle shop any more… From what little I can find out at least some of the bikes they sold were outsourced – whether this was one I do not know but it was obviously built by a small artisan frame builder. Its a very nicely proportioned, lovely fillet brazed road frame. It comes complete with a Mavic cartridge bearing bottom bracket and internal expanding seatpost. The paint is in a bit so-so condition – useable. £195

 

CAMILLE DARDENNE ROAD FRAME 52cm 1970s
Seat Tube (ctc): 52cm (20.5in)
Top Tube (ctc): 54cm (21.25in)
Rear dropout width: 125mm
Wheel size: Sprints/700C with a brake drop of 50mm
Frame tubing: Not known
Headset and BB threads: French
Seatpost size: 26.6mm
Camille Dardenne was one of the top specialist framebuilders in France, a bit behind Herse, Singer etc. This frame which dates from the late 1970s was probably one of the last he made… It has some lovely details – the slotted head lugs are really stunning. It will need repainting. £195

 

JACQUES ANQUETIL 54cm 1960s
Seat Tube (ctc): 54cm (21.25in)
Top Tube (ctc): 54cm (21.25in)
Rear dropout width: 120mm
Wheel size: 700C/sprints with a brake drop of 53mm
Seatpost size: 26.4mm
Frame Tubing: Not known
There are many bikes out there labelled with Anquetil decals and they were built by a number of different factories and builders. This frame which was found in France has French BB and headset threads and Huret dropouts. I think it dates from the early to middle 1960s – it’s almost certainly built from some form of double-butted tubing – metric dimensioned tubing with double butting takes seatposts in the range 26.4–26.6mm. A very nice quality French road frame. £265

 

BERNARD CARRE ROAD FRAME 1980s 55cm
Seat Tube (ctc): 55cm (21.5in)
Top Tube (ctc): 57cm (22.5in)
Rear dropout width: 125mm
Wheel size: Sprints/700C with a brake drop of 55mm
Frame tubing: Probably Reynolds 531 double butted
Seatpost size: 26.6mm
Bernard Carre built frames for many of the top French Professional riders and had an excellent trade supplying many shops with their own label frames throughout France… He built many of Anquetil’s personal bikes and also built for many teams. It has Bernard Carré ‘s signature oversize curved seatstay caps.
This is a very nice example of a frame from Bernard Carre’s workshop with clean neatly filed lugs. The paint and chrome are very good with a number of small marks. £175

 

MBK SUPER RECORD 1989–90 53cm
Seat Tube (ctc): 53cm (21in)
Top Tube (ctc): 54cm (21.25in)
Rear dropout width: 128mm
Wheel size: Sprints/700C with a brake drop of 53mm
Frame tubing: Columbus Cromor
Seatpost size: 26.0mm
This MBK frame built from Columbus Cromor tubing is in very good to excellent condition. with some small marks to the paint. £165

 

GERMAN TRACK FRAME Possibly Rickert 52cm 1960s
Seat Tube (ctc): 52cm (20.5in)
Top Tube (ctc): 54cm (21.25in)
Rear dropout width: 116mm
Wheel size:  700C/sprints
Seatpost size: 27.2mm
Rickert was one of the top German framebuilders. The German Rickert expert thought that this track frame was very likely to be a Rickert. This frame exudes quality just like most Rickert frames. The paint and chrome are in excellent condition. It has typical steep track frame angles and close clearances and is not drilled for brakes. £285

 

FRANCE-SPORT ROAD FRAME 54cm c1952
Seat Tube (ctc): 54cm (21.25in)
Top Tube (ctc): 54cm (21.25in)
Rear dropout width: 118mm
Wheel size: Sprints/700C with brake drop of 48mm
Frame tubing: Vitus
Seatpost size: 26.4mm
France-Sport bikes were built in Valenciennes by Starnord. This is was a medium sized French bike builder who built a full range of bikes under the Paris-Sport, France-Sport and Starnord names. This is one of their top road frames with Nervex Pro lugs, fork crown and Simplex forged rear dropouts – the gear hanger has been cut off. It has French bottom bracket and headset threads. It has its original paint albeit in quite poor condition. Restored with suitably patinated parts this would look really rather good in my opinion. £195

 

NO-NAME ROAD FRAME 55cm c1936 French or Belgian?
Seat Tube (ctc): 55cm (21.5in)
Top Tube (ctc): 56cm (22in)
Rear dropout width: 115mm
Wheel size: Sprints/700C with brake drop of 54mm
Seatpost size: 26.0mm
This road frame is thought to be French or Belgian in origin – it has braze-ons for an early Super Champion Osgear – I can supply suitable parts at extra cost to the buyer. The BB and headset threads are both English – some of the French framebuilders did supply frames with English threads for the British market. The long fork offset and lugs are very French in appearance. A very interesting frame. £175

 

VITUS 980 ROAD FRAME 54cm c1987
Seat Tube (ctc): 54cm (21.25in)
Top Tube (ctc): 56cm (22in)
Rear dropout width: 126mm
Wheel size: Sprints/700C with brake drop of 46mm
Frame tubing: Vitus 980 double butted steel
Seatpost size: 26.8mm
Vitus are best known these days for their aluminium frames from the 1980s but had been makers of steel tubing for a long time prior to that and had in the1980s a range of frames bearing the Vitus name. Vitus 980 tubing was an excellent quality double butted tubeset very comparable to 531C. This frame I think dates from the later 1980s – it has English BB and headset threads… Its in excellent condition. £155

 

EDDY MERCKX LO-PRO FRAME c1996
Seat Tube (ctc): 55cm (21.5in)
Top Tube (ctc): 59cm (23.5in)
Rear dropout width: 130mm
Wheel size: 650C (26in) front, 700C rear
Seatpost size: 27.2mm
Frame tubing: Columbus SLX
Lo-pro frames like track frames were always made in really very small numbers. This lo-pro frame is in Team Vlaanderen 2002 colours and I would guess is almost certainly an ex-Team bike – I doubt Merckx would have made frames in Vlaanderen 2002 colours… It has a bracket for a race number on the top tube. Its in excellent condition with just a few marksto the paint. £495

 

COPLO COQUEMPOT ROAD FRAME c1953 French from Douai
Seat Tube (ctc): 55cm (21.5in)
Top Tube (ctc): 56cm (22in)
Rear dropout width: 114mm
Wheel size: 700C/sprints with a front brake drop of 60mm
Frame Tubing: Reynolds 531 double butted metric dimensions
Seatpost size: 26.6mm
This is a very beautiful and original French built road frame from around 1951. I know nothing about its Douai based builder who interestingly describes himself on the headbadge as a Constructeur but it all shrieks a very high quality frame. Take a look at the beautifully filed Oscar Egg lugs, Simplex forged dropouts, reinforced brake bridge pump peg detailing. It really is stunning … extremely special in its original paint which is in exceptional condition. It of course has French threads but I can supply BBs with French threading and it comes complete with a Stronglight Competition headset in excellent condition. A truly excellent frame. £395

 

LIMONGI ROAD FRAME late 1980s
Seat Tube (ctc): 55cm (21.5in)
Top Tube (ctc): 54cm (21.25in)
Rear dropout width: 126mm
Wheel size: 700C/sprints with a brake drop of 52mm
Seatpost size: 27.02mm
Frame Tubing: Columbus SL
Frame Threading: French
Giuseppe ‘pepe’ Limongi was a was a very well respected French frame builder that went to the USA in the early 70s and set-up the Paris-Sports shop in New Jersey. He built bikes for many champions including Jacques Anquetil and Greg LeMond and later moved onto Canada before moving back to France. This frame dates from the late 1980s after he had moved back to France. Its in excellent condition with excellent paint. £225

 

HELYETT ROAD FRAME MODEL H48 1940s/50s
Seat Tube (ctc): 51cm (20in)
Top Tube (ctc): 56cm (22in)
Rear dropout width: 120mm
Wheel size: Sprints/700C with a brake drop of 55mm
Frame Tubing: probably Reynolds 531 double butted
Seatpost size: 26.4mm
This is I think an early post-war Helyett road frame – it carries a model number H48 on the rear dropouts. Almost all Helyett frames carried a model number beginning with an H… The lugs are those used by Helyett pre-war. It appears to be in sound condition and the paint is almost useable. Its missing its head badge but Helyett head badges are reasonably easily found on French Ebay. An excellent and very interesting restoration project. £125

 

FRENCH TT FRAME 1980s
Seat Tube (ctc): 56cm (22in)
Top Tube (ctc): 55.5cm (21.75in)
Rear dropout width: 125mm
Wheel size: Sprints/700C with brake drop of 48mm
This is a French built TT frame from I think the Mecacycle workshop. It is beautifully fillet brazed and takes an internal expanding seatpost. The frame is in very good condition – the paint is in good to very good condition – it will be quite easy to retouch this frame to look quite respectable. It of course has French threads. £165

 

GEMINIANI ROAD FRAME Early 1970s Probably Belgian built
Seat Tube (ctc): 56cm (22in)
Top Tube (ctc): 57cm (22.5in)
Rear dropout width: 120mm
Wheel size: Sprints/700C with a brake drop of 60mm
Frame tubing: Columbus SL
Seatpost size: 27.2mm
Geminiani licensed his name for use to different builders over the years I think. This frame built really rather nicely from Columbus SL tubing dates from the early 1970s and was I suspect built in Belgium – it has English headset and BB threads. The headset is in very good useable condition. The paint has plenty of scrapes and marks but the 1970s style foil decals are very charming… I think some careful retouching of the frame would work wonders. Generally very sound. £145

 

J LE GOFF BERNARD CARRE ROAD FRAME 1970s
Seat Tube (ctc): 55cm (21.5in)
Top Tube (ctc): 56cm (22in)
Rear dropout width: 126mm
Wheel size: Sprints/700C with a brake drop of 52mm
Frame tubing: Super Vitus double butted
Seatpost size: 26.8mm
Bernard Carre built frames for many of the top French Professional riders and had an excellent trade supplying many shops with their own label frames throughout France… This frame was built for a shop in Villeneuve and is very typical of his work from the 1970s. Its built from Super Vitus double butted tubing which is of similar quality to Reynolds 531. Its in very good condition with the worst marking to the top tube just in front of the seat lug. £185


Featured Frames
British and American road frames smaller than 21.5in
British and American road frames 21.5in–22.5in
British and American road frames larger than 22.5in
Bargain Basement
Classic Road frames pre-1970 smaller than 21.5in
Classic Road frames pre-1970 21.5in–22.5in
Classic Road frames pre-1970 larger than 22.5in
Classic Track & Road-Track frames pre-1970
European frames 56cm or smaller
European frames larger than 56cm
Italian frames 56cm or smaller
Italian frames larger than 56cm
Lo-Pro &
Retro Time Trial frames

Touring frames
Track frames





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FRAME CONDITION
Frames are supplied as seen in the pictures unless described otherwise in the text.
Please remember that these frames are generally at least twenty years old and sometimes seventy… In most cases I will know very little of their history but will attempt to describe any problems I can spot – if there are issues I have missed I will always work with the buyer to find a solution.
All frames I sell are in track and straight, with excellent headset threads, bottom bracket shell threads and gear hanger threads if fitted.
I will make every attempt to ascertain whether paint is original, an older repaint or a more recent repaint. Paint quality does vary quite bit…

These categories may be qualified by more detailed description in the text.

Excellent A very useable frame with no obtrusive marks to the paint and no dings or dents. Chrome if present will be free of serious marks unless stated otherwise.

Very Good Perfectly useable frame but with more marks to the paint and chrome if present. Some of the marks may benefit from careful retouching. Generally there will no dents or dings but if present will be small. However if you are concerned about dents/dings with frames in this category please ask me to do an extra check.

Sound Paint and chrome may need redoing depending on how you like your bikes – I appreciate frames with patina which show their age but others may want to repaint. There may be a small ding or two but nothing very significant – older frames often pick up smaller dents which are of no significance to their strength or life. Any more significant dents will be described in the text.

Needing repainting Paint will be poor and in my opinion is not saveable. There may be a small ding or two but nothing very significant – older frames often pick up smaller dents which are of no significance to their strength or life. If there are larger dents they will be described and/or pictured. These are all easily filled by a good framebuilder or frame painter at very little extra cost.

Headsets or bottom brackets fitted to frames are of unknown and unguaranteed condition unless specifically described in the text. Sometimes headsets or bottom brackets will not feel smooth and simply need a service and on other occasions the headset or bottom bracket will need replacing…
For frame without headsets or where you'd like a headset replaced I can offer a fitting service for £15. Please see the headset pages: http://hilarystone.com/headset.html for what is available but please bear in mind that you may need advice on whether a particular headset will fit your frame especially in relation to stack height.


 
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