English, American & Far Eastern Bike Frames
Post-1970 21.5in–22.5in

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PLEASE NOTE: I measure all British, American and Japanese frames in inches ctt (centre to top) and convert to the nearest cm, conversely I measure all European and Italian frames in centimetres ctc (centre to centre) and convert to the nearest 0.25in.
A problem with all frames measured ctt is that the top measuring point varies from maker to maker and I try and second guess where the maker intended his measurement to be to – some mean top of top top tube, others the very top of the seat lug, and others to the seat lug top line…

FRAME SIZING
Do not assume that you will need a frame sized the same as your modern one – either seat tube or top tube. Fashion plays a great part in frame design and sizing. In the early years of the 20th century frames were sized as large as possible with virtually no seatpost showing … by contrast riders were advised in the 1920s to have as small a frame as possible.
Race/road frames from the 1920s/early 1930s will generally be sized about 3–5cm smaller than a modern frame but with a much longer top tube and shorter stems. Towards the end of the 1930s larger frame sizes became fashionable – up to 2cm larger than a modern frame. Top tube lengths were still longer used with shorter stems. In the 1940s and 50s frames were sized a bit larger still – 3–4cm more than a modern frame still with longer top tubes and shorter stems. In the 1960s and 1970s frames gradually reduced in size until the late 1980s. At the same time top tubes began to get shorter and stems longer.

Standover height is NOT a useful method of frame sizing either with modern or old frames. Short legged riders will rarely have much or any clearance between the top tube and their crotch unless the frame has a sloping top tube design. Taller riders also face other problems. A complete guide to frame sizing for frames of different periods is impossible to detail here. For frames from the 1980s onwards I suggest buyers look at Dave Moulton’s contributions on frame sizing. Possibly start off with http://davesbikeblog.squarespace.com/blog/2006/2/27/a-different-thought-on-frame-sizing.html
and then look at: http://www.davemoultonregistry.com/MoultonFrameSizeChart

I am willing to advise any customer on frame sizing with older frames.

Featured Frames
British and American road frames smaller than 21.5in
British and American road frames 21.5in–22.5in (look below)
British and American road frames larger than 22.5in
Bargain Basement
Classic Road frames pre-1970 smaller than 21.5in
Classic Road frames pre-1970 21.5in–22.5in
Classic Road frames pre-1970 larger than 22.5in
Classic Track & Road-Track frames pre-1970
European frames 56cm or smaller
European frames larger than 56cm
Italian frames 56cm or smaller
Italian frames larger than 56cm
Lo-Pro &
Retro Time Trial frames

Touring frames
Track frames


Please contact me at: hilarystone@hilarystone.com to check on availability and confirm shipping cost.

DAVE YATES ROAD FRAME 22.5in 1985 Reynolds 753
Seat Tube (ctt): 22.5in (57cm)
Top Tube (ctc): 23.5in (59cm)
Rear dropout width: 128mm
Wheel size: Sprints/700C with a brake drop of 45mm
Frame tubing: Reynolds 753R
Seatpost size: 27.2mm
Dave Yates started framebuilding in the late 1970s and was one of the partners in the M Steel cycle shop in Newcastle. Frames were sold under the Dave Yates, M Steel and Joe Waugh names. He quickly established an excellent reputation and also built Condor’s high-end steel frames for many years. His workshop in later years employed a number of framebuilders but he kept very close control over the quality and on a visit in 1998 I was most impressed by the standard of framebuilding. This frame built from Reynolds 753R tubing dates from 1985 and is in excellent condition just needing decals to be added. £265

 

F W EVANS TOURER 22in c1985–6
Seat Tube (ctt): 22in (56cm)
Top Tube (ctc): 21.75in (55.5cm)
Rear dropout width: 124mm
Wheel size: 700C
Frame tubing: Reynolds 531 double butted
Seatpost size: 27.2mm
F W Evans was founded in 1922 and soon gained an enviable reputation as one of the best and only specialist builder of touring frames though they built racing and clubman’s frames. This touring frame dates from about 1985–6 and is very good condition with just a number of small marks to the paint. It has rear rack mounts and comes complete with a Stronglight A9 headset and the Dia-Compe cantilever brakes mounted for 700C wheels… £245

 

RALEIGH PRO MKIV 22.5in 1972
Seat Tube (ctt): 22.5in (57cm)
Top Tube (ctc): 22in (56cm)
Rear dropout width: 125mm
Wheel size: Sprints/700C with brake drop of 52mm
Frame tubing: Reynolds 531 double butted
Seatpost size: 27.2mm
The Raleigh Pro Mk IV was in effect the predecessor to all the special frames built at Raleigh Ilkeston SBDU plant. It was used by the Raleigh Team in 1972 and 1973 – albeit with modified geometry in the later part of ‘73. This frame has been nicely repainted in the Team colours of 1973 and 1974 – I can supply the correct head badge to go with it. The frame is in excellent condition but has had bottle cage bosses and down tube stops for bar-end shifters added… The paint is in very good to excellent condition. £245


KESTREL ROAD FRAME 22in c1990
Seat Tube (ctt): 23.75in (59.5cm), 22in (56cm) ctc
Top Tube (ctc): 22in (56cm)
Rear dropout width: 130mm
Wheel size: Sprints/700C with a brake drop of 47mm
Frame tubing: Carbon-fibre monococque with Time carbon forks
Seatpost size: 27.2mm
Kestrel were one of the pioneers of building carbon-fibre monococque frames – they started in 1986! This frame is in excellent condition with no signs of any accident damage or cracks and dates I think from the early 1990s. It is partnered with a Time carbon-fibre fork. £295

 

GRAHAM TOMLINSON ROAD FRAME 22in c1978
built by Philip Pike, son of Stan Pike
Seat Tube (ctt): 22in (56cm)
Top Tube (ctc): 23in (58cm)
Rear dropout width: 122mm
Wheel size: 27s or Sprints/700C with a brake drop of 60mm
Frame tubing: Reynolds 531 double butted
Seatpost size: 27.2mm
Graham Tomlinson Cycles was a cycle shop in Wellington, Somerset that had close connections to Stan Pike. Stan Pike and his son built frames for the shop and this frame is one of those. Stan Pike learnt frame-building from Wally Green, and worked part-time for Don Farrell, before moving to Somerset in 1959. In 1977, Stan purchased the cycle shop in Hermitage Street, Crewkerne. Here he set up a workshop in the back where he built frames. He was assisted for most of the time by his son, Philip. Stan taught Phil how to build the frames, hence Philip’s frames carried the ‘Pike of Crewkerne’ transfers and not the ‘Stan Pike’ transfers which were only applied to Stan’s own frames. Also, Philip’s frames usually, but not always,  had the prefix PJ. There’s lots more on Stan Pike and Philip Pike at: http://www.stanpikecycles.co.uk
This frame numbered PJ16 was built by Philip Pike, son of Stan Pike and dates from I should think about 1977. Its in excellent condition with just a few small marks to the paint but I think the decals are a bit faded… £245

 


HARRY HALL ROAD FRAME 22in 1970s
Seat Tube (ctt): 22in (56cm)
Top Tube (ctc): 22in (56cm)
Rear dropout width: 126mm
Wheel size: Sprints/700C with a brake drop of 52mm
Frame tubing: Reynolds 531 double butted
Seatpost size: 27.2mm
Harry Hall Cycles in Manchester is a very well established shop who built frames on their own premises in the 1960s and 70s. This frame I think dates from the early 1970s with the H’s cut into the lugs and filed and squared off rear dropouts. I think its likely it was built by Roger Kowalski, I would be pretty certain its not one of the Harry Hall frames built by Bob Jackson. Its in very sound condition but most buyers I think would want to repaint it. It comes with a new set of decals. £145

 

COLIN CAPE ROAD FRAME 1970s
Seat Tube (ctt): 22.25in (56.5cm)
Top Tube (ctc): 22.5in (57cm)
Rear dropout width: 124mm
Wheel size: Sprints/700C with a brake drop of 48mm
Frame tubing: Reynolds 531 double butted
Seatpost size: 27.2mm
Colin Cape was a framebuilder who originally had a shop in Chelmsford, Essex. This frame however dates from the 1970s and time when he had a shop in Swindon – Swindon Cycles. This frame has some nice details such as he drilled rear dropouts and the shot-in seatstays and is in very good condition. It has fairly recently been repainted and this is in very good condition though is quite thick… £159

 

RALEIGH DYNA-TECH CASTORAMA ROAD FRAME
Seat Tube (ctt): 22.5in (57cm)
Top Tube (ctc): 22in (56cm)
Rear dropout width: 126mm
Wheel size: 700C/sprints with a brake drop of 49mm
Seatpost size: 27.0mm
Frame Tubing: Reynolds 2070 series equivalent to 653
Raleigh sponsored the continental professional Castorama team for 1990 – and hoped that the Team would promote their new Dyna-Tech bonded steel road frames. This is a rare example from the first year of Dyna-Tech production and with Reynolds 2070 tubing which was equivalent to 653 but with shorter or non existent butts which was made possible by the bonding process. This frame is in very good to excellent condition with just a few marks to the paint. £265

 

KEN RYALL ROAD FRAME 1970s
Seat Tube (ctt): 22.5in (57cm)
Top Tube (ctc): 22.5in (57cm)
Rear dropout width: 126mm
Wheel size: Sprints/700C with a brake drop of 53mm
Frame tubing: Probably Reynolds 531 plain gauge
Seatpost size: 26.8mm
This is a Ken Ryall road frame from I think the early 1970s – its really quite nicely built but judging by the seatpost size is built from Reynolds 531 plain gauge tubing. Ready to be painted in a light coat of primer. Obviously needs repainting. £99

 

RORY O’BRIEN SPEARPOINT TT FRAME 1970s built by Vic Edwards Hand cut spearpoint lugs
Seat Tube (ctt): 22in (56cm)
Top Tube (ctc): 22in (56cm)
Rear dropout width: 122mm
Wheel size: Sprints/700C with brake drop of 475mm
Frame tubing: Reynolds 531 double butted
Seatpost size: 27.2mm
This is a really rather nice Rory O’Brien road frame with unusual spearpoint lugs built by Vic Edwards and almost certainly from the early 1970s. The lugs share some common design to one of the lug designs he used on frames built for Pat Hanlon. One fork blade has suffered a little damage in the past – however the fork’s alignment has been checked and its fine. A really rather nice frame. £165


Featured Frames
British and American road frames smaller than 21.5in
British and American road frames 21.5in–22.5in (look below)
British and American road frames larger than 22.5in
Bargain Basement
Classic Road frames pre-1970 smaller than 21.5in
Classic Road frames pre-1970 21.5in–22.5in
Classic Road frames pre-1970 larger than 22.5in
Classic Track & Road-Track frames pre-1970
European frames 56cm or smaller
European frames larger than 56cm
Italian frames 56cm or smaller
Italian frames larger than 56cm
Lo-Pro &
Retro Time Trial frames

Touring frames
Track frames

 


SHIPPING COSTS

UK: £12
Europe: £35
North America: £90
Japan, Asia, Australasia, Africa, Middle East, South America: £115

Figures above are good estimates, rates may vary for some countries.
Contact us for more info.


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FRAME CONDITION CATEGORIES
These categories may be qualified by more detailed description in the text.
All frames I sell are in track and straight, with excellent headset threads, bottom bracket shell threads and gear hanger threads if fitted.
I will make every attempt to ascertain whether paint is original, an older repaint or a more recent repaint. Paint quality does vary quite bit…

Excellent A very useable frame with no obtrusive marks to the paint and no dings or dents. Chrome if present will be free of serious marks unless stated otherwise.

Very Good Perfectly useable frame but with more marks to the paint and chrome if present. Some of the marks may benefit from careful retouching. Generally there will no dents or dings but if present will be small. However if you are concerned about dents/dings with frames in this category please ask me to do an extra check.

Sound Paint and chrome may need redoing depending on how you like your bikes – I appreciate frames with patina which show their age but others may want to repaint. There may be a small ding or two but nothing very significant – older frames often pick up smaller dents which are of no significance to their strength or life. Any more significant dents will be described in the text.

Needing repainting Paint will be poor and in my opinion is not saveable. There may be a small ding or two but nothing very significant – older frames often pick up smaller dents which are of no significance to their strength or life. If there are larger dents they will be described and/or pictured. These are all easily filled by a good framebuilder or frame painter at very little extra cost.

Headsets or bottom brackets fitted to frames are of unknown and unguaranteed condition unless specifically described in the text. Sometimes headsets or bottom brackets will not feel smooth and simply need a service and on other occasions the headset or bottom bracket will need replacing…
For frame without headsets or where you'd like a headset replaced I can offer a fitting service for £15. Please see the headset page: http://hilarystone.com/headset.html for what is available but please bear in mind that you may need advice on whether a particular headset will fit your frame especially in relation to stack height.



 


 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
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